Malfuzat - Volume VIII — Page 336
Malf uza t - English translation of Urdu Volume 8 336 The Promised Messiah as — People who deliver extensive important lectures to Aryas and want to improve the low state of the nation; what is their ultimate objective? Every nation has an ultimate goal for itself. So what is the ultimate goal of your reformers? The objectives of the reformers are of two types. One is those who focus on worldly affairs. And another is those who focus on religious matters. My concern at this time is with those reforming religious affairs; what is their ultimate goal? Arya— According to us, religion is not separate from the world. Only religious people can understand worldly affairs well and excellently perform them. For this reason, we reform them both. We include worldly reformation within religion. The Promised Messiah as — I accept that the person who gains insight into religious matters adopts righteousness and honesty in worldly affairs, and worldly life cannot be improved without this, but what I mean here by asking only about reli- gion and keeping the world separate is that a particular intellect is also required for the world. For example, I do not know the work of a mason, I neither object nor correct his work. If the Government needs a doctor, it employs a man who has devel- oped competence in this profession through hard work and effort. No matter how virtuous a person is, he cannot become a judge if he is unaware of the governing law. Thus, there is a sepa- rate branch of worldly reforms. As people make new inventions and better vehicles, tools, and equipment than ever before, this is also an improvement. Yes, good-hearted people also come for reformation, but their interference in worldly affairs is limited to an ordinary coincidence that evil behaviour should be removed and peo- ple should complete all work with good intentions. The rest of